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cliff area. but still a tetch rare measure that doesn't involve -- >> greg: can we call it something else? fiscal cliff? can't we call it something else? >> dana: sure. >> eric: monetary -- >> greg: liberal fantasy. >> bob: one more thing on the table. can obama sell cuts in entitlements to his senate? >> dana: not acarding to harry reid. >> eric: leave it there. we'll stay on it. don't go away. more on developing news washington, including ambassador susan rice. we'll get on that when we come back. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, children laughing ] move to the country, d live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rock
cliff area. but still a tetch rare measure that doesn't involve -- >> greg: can we call it something else? fiscal cliff? can't we call it something else? >> dana: sure. >> eric: monetary -- >> greg: liberal fantasy. >> bob: one more thing on the table. can obama sell cuts in entitlements to his senate? >> dana: not acarding to harry reid. >> eric: leave it there. we'll stay on it. don't go away. more on developing news washington, including ambassador...
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cliff? >> actually, believe it or not we have had a number of bipartisan meetings going on around the hill. we've had them going on last month ore two, increasing in intensity and frequency as republicans and democrats, moderate republicans and democrats work together to solve the problem that is where it is at. you don't elect us to be idealogues. we're not bloggers. we're statesman hopefully at the end of the day to solve the problem. if america wants to punish us for that, i don't they had they will, sandra. think they will reward us. sandra: congressman, some are arguing a bad deal could be worse than no deal in actually falling off the cliff. where do you stand on that? >> i don't think there will be a bad deal. we need, i think as both the president and speaker have said, at least $4 trillion in deficit reduction. part will come from revenues. part will come from spending reductions and or improvements. i think everyone knows the shape of the universe. i happen to be a big bowles-simps
cliff? >> actually, believe it or not we have had a number of bipartisan meetings going on around the hill. we've had them going on last month ore two, increasing in intensity and frequency as republicans and democrats, moderate republicans and democrats work together to solve the problem that is where it is at. you don't elect us to be idealogues. we're not bloggers. we're statesman hopefully at the end of the day to solve the problem. if america wants to punish us for that, i don't they...
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a lick of a difference in avoiding the fiscal cliff. the debate on the fed, the cliff and the economy coming up and represent schakowski says raising the eligibility age for medicare is a non-starter. we'll talk about it and dan niles, ahead of the curve? saw facebook's mess comin before the ipo. now he's ready to unload his top picks onnies giving us his ideas for the new year. second half of the show. you can't afford to miss that one. you're watching cleshl on cnbc, first in business worldwide. >>> welcome back. between the federal reserve and the fiscal cliff it's a mess if you're trying to position yourself with 2013 with so much influence by ben bernanke. what happens between the president and john boehner in an hour >> narrator: what are the pros expecting in 2013? dan greenhouse is with me and also the chief economist with ihs global insight joins me. good to have you on the program, gentlemen. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> thanks, maria. >> dap, you think the fed captain really do much on the fiscal cliff? do
a lick of a difference in avoiding the fiscal cliff. the debate on the fed, the cliff and the economy coming up and represent schakowski says raising the eligibility age for medicare is a non-starter. we'll talk about it and dan niles, ahead of the curve? saw facebook's mess comin before the ipo. now he's ready to unload his top picks onnies giving us his ideas for the new year. second half of the show. you can't afford to miss that one. you're watching cleshl on cnbc, first in business...
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. >>> fiscal cliff clock is ticking and throwing a real wrench into the economy. but one ceo is ratcheting up pressure on washington to get a deal done. let's bring in nick, ceo of snap on tools. he is in town for the yale summit. welcome. >> kb g to be with you. >> why is it so important to get a deal done specifically for your company. >> well, if we good over the fiscal cliff, it can't be good. and of course that ratchets up uncertainty. i think one of the things you can talk about the fed, talk about interest rates, but someone once said or someone said recently, it is a psychology, stupid. when we call on our customers, we see that most important thing is their psychology and getting a deal dpun would help that. >> how would that materially effect your company? would it change your hiring plans? >> i think it can. i think the thing do, if we go off the fiscal cliff, i don't know what depth of that effect would be, but couldn't be good. but we have seen that movie before. we went through recession probably the most whithering so i think ceos, at least our view
. >>> fiscal cliff clock is ticking and throwing a real wrench into the economy. but one ceo is ratcheting up pressure on washington to get a deal done. let's bring in nick, ceo of snap on tools. he is in town for the yale summit. welcome. >> kb g to be with you. >> why is it so important to get a deal done specifically for your company. >> well, if we good over the fiscal cliff, it can't be good. and of course that ratchets up uncertainty. i think one of the things...
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while congressional leaders trade jabs on the fiscal cliff our next guest says the economy is totally at risk. without a deal we could go back into recession next couple months. joining us david blitzer, s&p dow jones indices managing director. you know, what happens if we go over the cliff but they quickly come to a resolution, they make everything retroactive back to jan 1, does that stave off recession? >> it probably saves off recession. there will be a lot of anxiety and concern. it is a long series of items. not just like one tax rule, one spending cut. it is pages and pages. never do anything in a few pages in washington. so you would have to unwind it but the concern is, and this is all growing like a labor negotiation. it doesn't start until about 11:55 p.m. at the midnight deadline. if boehner says he is going to a new year's eve party in ohio i would worry. if going home for the weekend that's fine. he has a couple weeks, all right? same thing goes for the president obviously. but, also like a labor negotiation, when the strike starts everybody goes off and spends three day
while congressional leaders trade jabs on the fiscal cliff our next guest says the economy is totally at risk. without a deal we could go back into recession next couple months. joining us david blitzer, s&p dow jones indices managing director. you know, what happens if we go over the cliff but they quickly come to a resolution, they make everything retroactive back to jan 1, does that stave off recession? >> it probably saves off recession. there will be a lot of anxiety and concern....
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up to the fiscal cliff. doing that puts our jobs and the country in danger. it jeopardize is a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem and revenue problem. as you can see, real revenue growth is critically important as long as real cuts in spending if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problems. the election was not a mandate to raise taxes on small businesses. it was a mandate for both parties to work together to take on the big challenges that our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer, and is now up to the white house to show us how they are going to cut spending and give us the balanced agreement that the president has talked about for weeks. the president will step up and show us he is willing to make the cuts that are needed, we can do some real good in the days ahead. if not, he wants to keep chasing higher spending with higher taxes,
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that is what i'm referring to as the fiscal cliff. i do understand -- and the senator is correct -- we also have the second bod blow to the economy that's going to be in impinge with these tax increases, $1.2 trillion in cuts, which i understand is what the senator is referring to as the sequester, if i am not mistaken? mr. durbin: i refer the colleague to the vote of 74-26 with a substantial number of senators from both sides of the aisle that have brought us to this moment in negotiations. we all hoped we would never reach this moment. we can still avoid it. i yield the floor. and i yield back all remaining time. the presiding officer: the question is on the schofield nomination. is there a sufficient second? there appears to be. and there is. the clerk will call the roll. vote: vote: vote: the presiding officer: are there any senators wishing to vote or change his or her vote? hearing none, the vote is 91 aye, zero nay, and the nomination is confirmed. under the previous order, the question is on the geraci nomination. all those in
that is what i'm referring to as the fiscal cliff. i do understand -- and the senator is correct -- we also have the second bod blow to the economy that's going to be in impinge with these tax increases, $1.2 trillion in cuts, which i understand is what the senator is referring to as the sequester, if i am not mistaken? mr. durbin: i refer the colleague to the vote of 74-26 with a substantial number of senators from both sides of the aisle that have brought us to this moment in negotiations. we...
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right up to the fiscal cliff. doing that, puts jobs in our country, in danger. jeopardizes a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem, frankly, revenue problem. as you can see from this chart, real revenue growth is critically important, as long as real cuts in spending, if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problem. as i said five weeks ago, the election wasn't a mandate to raise taxes on small businesses. it was a mandate for both parties to work together, to take on the big challenges that our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer. it's now up to the white house to show us how they're going to cut spending and give us the balanced agreement that the president has talked about for weeks. if the president will step up and show us he's willing to make the spending cuts that are needs, i think we can do some real good in the days ahead. if not, he w
right up to the fiscal cliff. doing that, puts jobs in our country, in danger. jeopardizes a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem, frankly, revenue problem. as you can see from this chart, real revenue growth is critically important, as long as real cuts in spending, if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problem. as i said five weeks ago, the election wasn't a mandate to raise...
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up to the fiscal cliff. doing that puts jobs in our country in danger. it jeopardizes a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that there will be a fundamental tax and entitlement reform that will begin to solve our countries debt problem and, frankly, revenue problem. as you can see from this chart, real revenue growth is critically important. as long as, real cuts and spending, if we are going to solve our long-term fiscal problem. old on -- taking on the big challenges our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer. it is now up to the white house to show us how they are going to cut spending and give us the balanced agreement the president has talked about for weeks. the president will step up and show us he is willing to make the spending cuts that are needed, i think, we could do some great stuff in the days ahead. if not, this chart will look a whole lot worse. and, our kids and grandkids, are the ones that will suffer. because washington was too s
up to the fiscal cliff. doing that puts jobs in our country in danger. it jeopardizes a golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that there will be a fundamental tax and entitlement reform that will begin to solve our countries debt problem and, frankly, revenue problem. as you can see from this chart, real revenue growth is critically important. as long as, real cuts and spending, if we are going to solve our long-term fiscal problem. old on -- taking on the big challenges our country is...
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right up to the fiscal cliff. doing that puts jobs in our country in danger. it jeopardize as golden opportunity to make 2013 the year that we enact fundamental tax reform and entitlement reform to begin to solve our country's debt problem and frankly revenue problem. as you can see from this chart real revenue growth is critically important as long as with real cuts in spending if we're going to solve our long-term fiscal problem. as i said five weeks ago the election wasn't a mandate to raise taxes on small businesses. it was a mandate for both parties to work together to take on the big challenges that our country is facing. republicans are ready and eager to do just that. we made a reasonable offer. it's now up to the white house to show us how they're going to cut spending and give us the balanced agreement the president has talked about for weeks. if the president will step up and show us he is willing to make the spending cuts that are needed i think we can do some real good in the days ahead. if not, he wa
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because this is going to be a huge crisis economically for the world if we go over this fiscal cliff. you know, it was ben bernanke who first coined the term. and he was talking about the economy going over the cliff if we did not act appropriately. so we absolutely have to do the right thing here. now, having said that, to juxtapose medicare and social security, which are programs in which people pay into all their lives, as being the area that we are going to cut, is not where i believe the cut should be should be takes place. >> representative, from that note, according to politico, the article we were talking about earlier, john boehner is able to move on with revenue for the cuts if john boehner says okay to a deal, will you extend the tax hikes for the rich to raise the issues on medicare? >> that's one area that doesn't make any sense. why should we do something that's stupid? raising the retirement age from 65 to 67, actually, only nets $2 billion. and the other costs associated with it is, maybe it's closer to $5 billion. but the other costs associated with it, in emergency r
because this is going to be a huge crisis economically for the world if we go over this fiscal cliff. you know, it was ben bernanke who first coined the term. and he was talking about the economy going over the cliff if we did not act appropriately. so we absolutely have to do the right thing here. now, having said that, to juxtapose medicare and social security, which are programs in which people pay into all their lives, as being the area that we are going to cut, is not where i believe the...
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the fiscal cliff drama is across-the-board government spending cuts. today every member of the house received a letter ordering them to impose 11% across the board cuts to their own budget. john boehner will meet with reporters in a couple of hours and president obama will do some interviews with stations across the country. >> also in washington is republican senator jim demint of south carolina. senator, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> senator, what do you think is going to happen? >> i wish i knew. most of us here are not in the loop of what they're discussing. but i do know this, that this government doesn't need more money, this country needs less government. to take more money out of the real economy and give it to politicians and bureaucrats, no matter who you take it from, is not going to help the middle class or anyone else. the president's proposal clearly is not a plan, it's not a solution. it will fund the government for a few days. we all realize it's a political trophy, it's not a solution. but the president has been campaignin
the fiscal cliff drama is across-the-board government spending cuts. today every member of the house received a letter ordering them to impose 11% across the board cuts to their own budget. john boehner will meet with reporters in a couple of hours and president obama will do some interviews with stations across the country. >> also in washington is republican senator jim demint of south carolina. senator, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> senator, what do you think...
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and we've got a very slow economy. i don't think this fiscal cliff talks will resolve anything. nothing. charles: the whole thing, though, a lot of conservatives are saying boehner may not be that far away from obama in ideology. in other words, he's purged the tea party within the ranks of the leadership within the g.o.p. and seems to be willing to go down the same path as the president. >> i'm not sure i believe that. i think boehner's heart is in the right place, but he's caught up. it's his role to sort of grind out a deal with the president, rather than speak for the party. noww you know, stuart, in the british system, someone will stand on the floor of the house of commons in the opposition and give a major statement of the party's position in any given fight. i don't see why it should not be possible to designate somebody like paul ryan or eric cantor or even marco rubio to stand down in washington and give a major presentation. charles: if they give the presentation and the lead ser doing something different -- and the leader is doing something different, isn't that a mi
and we've got a very slow economy. i don't think this fiscal cliff talks will resolve anything. nothing. charles: the whole thing, though, a lot of conservatives are saying boehner may not be that far away from obama in ideology. in other words, he's purged the tea party within the ranks of the leadership within the g.o.p. and seems to be willing to go down the same path as the president. >> i'm not sure i believe that. i think boehner's heart is in the right place, but he's caught up....
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the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more person jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> the white house in turn insists its republicans are being inflexible. >> i don't believe that we've heard anything from the leadership that suggests they have moved off their position. they have refused to accept the fundamental fact that hiring -- the top 2% of earners in america are not going to have their tax cuts extended. >> the two sides have been swapping proposals this week but insiders say they didn't view the last white house plan as a serious counteroffer so they resent their original proposal to the president. the problem isn't just there's a big gulf between the two sides, they don't understand how to negotiate with each other. you'd think they might have figured out how to communicate. that hasn't happened. correctly fearing the republicans were insulted by that offer, the phone call the president had with boehner on tuesday night was an attempt to save the talks and assure boehner that the white house wasn't trying to
the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more person jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> the white house in turn insists its republicans are being inflexible. >> i don't believe that we've heard anything from the leadership that suggests they have moved off their position. they have refused to accept the fundamental fact that hiring -- the top 2% of earners in america are not going to have their tax cuts extended....
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economy over the fiscal cliff n about an hour's time, house speaker bain letter tell us exactly where the republican party now stands. a new "wall street journal"/nbc poll shows what the public thinks. john har wood is in washington, d.c. with the details on that welcome to the program, john. i would expect that two-thirds of americans might say, the cnbc slogan goes, rice above what is interesting here, the majority of you republicans, 59% say do a deal and 61% of republicans say it is okay to raise tax on those earning more than $250,000. >> well, exactly. what we have seen is that the public has absorbed the idea that the fiscal cliff and going over it would be a very bad thing to do they are looking at what the least bad alternatives r if you look at the "wall street journal" poll, you can see that president obama has the upper harden this in defining what those alternatives -- least bad altern trip. first of all, yet of who do you trust, 38% say they trust president obama to handle the fiscal cliff. that's twice as many as, say, speaker boehner. 14% say both equally. 28% say they
economy over the fiscal cliff n about an hour's time, house speaker bain letter tell us exactly where the republican party now stands. a new "wall street journal"/nbc poll shows what the public thinks. john har wood is in washington, d.c. with the details on that welcome to the program, john. i would expect that two-thirds of americans might say, the cnbc slogan goes, rice above what is interesting here, the majority of you republicans, 59% say do a deal and 61% of republicans say it...
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fed chairman ben bernanke says just the threat of the fiscal cliff is dragging down the economy. >> it's already affecting business investment and hiring decisions by creating uncertainty. >> that's unwelcome news for hundreds who lined up at a job fair in new york on wednesday. >> basically i'm looking for anything that pays american dollars. >> ben bernanke says 2013 will bring more jobs and better economic growth but only if congress strikes a deal. now, even if they do strike a deal, some here say the delays have jeopardized the chances of this becoming legislation and passing both houses of congress in time, and there's a question whether speaker boehner will even have enough republican votes to pass any deal they might come, to terrell. >> susan mcginnis in washington this morning. thank you, susan. >>> ben bernanke also had big news for investors. the feds taking unprecedented action in keeping interest rates at their record-low levels. erica ferrari is here in new york with that. erica, good morning to you. >> good morning, terrell. for the first time ever, the fed said they woul
fed chairman ben bernanke says just the threat of the fiscal cliff is dragging down the economy. >> it's already affecting business investment and hiring decisions by creating uncertainty. >> that's unwelcome news for hundreds who lined up at a job fair in new york on wednesday. >> basically i'm looking for anything that pays american dollars. >> ben bernanke says 2013 will bring more jobs and better economic growth but only if congress strikes a deal. now, even if they...
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there were two objectives as we approached the at fiscal cliff. number one, to accelerate what remains a fragile economy and put more people back to work. no. 2,, with a balanced approach to long-term deficit reduction. we have to deal with long-term deficit reduction for long-term economic growth, and a balanced plan means a mixture of cuts and revenue. remembering that we have already agreed to over $1 trillion in cuts, which have to be implemented over the next 10 years, but on top of that, the president has proposed additional cuts along with revenue from high-income individuals. his plan has been out there. it has been on the internet. people keep asking for specifics, but the reality is that it is there. at the democratic convention, when i made my remarks, i held up a copy of this plan to remind people that is not that the president doesn't have a plan, is that our republican colleagues may not like it. but it is there. >> you are experienced with this, you were on the super committee. what is the practical deadline for the formulation of a
there were two objectives as we approached the at fiscal cliff. number one, to accelerate what remains a fragile economy and put more people back to work. no. 2,, with a balanced approach to long-term deficit reduction. we have to deal with long-term deficit reduction for long-term economic growth, and a balanced plan means a mixture of cuts and revenue. remembering that we have already agreed to over $1 trillion in cuts, which have to be implemented over the next 10 years, but on top of that,...
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economy falls off the so-called fiscal cliff, house speaker john boehner says he and the president are still not close to reaching any kind of a deal. >> the president's plan to avert the fiscal cliff still does not meet the two standards that i laid out today after the election. his plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem. it's mainly tax hikes. and his plan does not begin o solve our debt crisis. it actually increases spending. the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> gretchen: so with both sides still hung up over tax hikes and spending cuts, can they come it a consensus in time to avert going off the cliff? let's ask texas congressman jeb hensarling who joins me live this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. how are you? >> gretchen: doing just fine, thank you so much. it's interesting because it appears from john boehner that the president isn't budging on the spending cuts. yet i want to point you in the direc
economy falls off the so-called fiscal cliff, house speaker john boehner says he and the president are still not close to reaching any kind of a deal. >> the president's plan to avert the fiscal cliff still does not meet the two standards that i laid out today after the election. his plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem. it's mainly tax hikes. and his plan does not begin o solve our debt crisis. it actually increases spending. the longer...
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economy goes over the fiscal cliff. >>> and the fed takes the new and surprising step in its ongoing efforts to boost the economy, tying interest rates directly to the u.s. unemployment rate. >>> plus, investors cheering the plan to save danone's plans to offset losses over the next two years. >> announcer: you're watching "worldwide exchange," bringing you business news from around the globe. >>> welcome to the program. coming up on today's show, we'll be plenty busy. we head out to tokyo where carry enjoji has been talking about the upcoming elections. then, we hone in on central london where one pilot project is living roof and major buildings. find out what green living can do go r to improve the area. >>> and today, the 1 billionth international tourist will reportedly arrive at a destination in the world. at 11:20 central time, we'll speak to the world travel council to find out why france is still the world's top destination but more money is spent in the u.s. and central america is now a star performer. first, we want to get the latest news. looking for confidence out of germ
economy goes over the fiscal cliff. >>> and the fed takes the new and surprising step in its ongoing efforts to boost the economy, tying interest rates directly to the u.s. unemployment rate. >>> plus, investors cheering the plan to save danone's plans to offset losses over the next two years. >> announcer: you're watching "worldwide exchange," bringing you business news from around the globe. >>> welcome to the program. coming up on today's show,...
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. >> if the economy actually went off the fiscal cliff, our assessment, the cbo's assessment, outside forecasters all think that would have very adverse effects on the economy and on the unemployment rate. we cannot offset the full impact of the fiscal cliff. it's just too big. >> there was another figurehead on capitol hill today, urging a solution to the standoff. >> to parents everywhere, call your representatives today, tomorrow, and every day until they pass the tax cut that is so important to you all. >> i guess we're pulling out all stops. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell was not really in the holiday mood today. he claims the president is not giving republicans anything to work with. >> the president and his allies have taken so many things off the table, the only thing left is the varnish. >> well, that's good news. house speaker john boehner says the white house offer is dead in the water. >> the president is calling for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> here is a news alert for speaker boehner. it's his job to get a deal to
. >> if the economy actually went off the fiscal cliff, our assessment, the cbo's assessment, outside forecasters all think that would have very adverse effects on the economy and on the unemployment rate. we cannot offset the full impact of the fiscal cliff. it's just too big. >> there was another figurehead on capitol hill today, urging a solution to the standoff. >> to parents everywhere, call your representatives today, tomorrow, and every day until they pass the tax cut...
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i think that just discounting any probability we have a fiscal cliff, if we do, and negotiations brick down, then market i think will be way overpriced for the very difficult economy. we'll see in the first half of next year. lou: we might see it before the end of the year, if it is clear, this may be part of the game, they try to keep in am pickous to whether or not there will be a dial, that would be a slick portion of this negotiation. i do not know what to make of it. i do thinkhis republicans are now incentivized to go over the cliff, and seek sequest raising sequestration in force. it gives republicans want they want, two-for-one spending cuts to tax hikes it gets intresting. >> it is, some of the commentary i've seen, suggestions that the president i talking about more x increases than spending cuts, that is -- >> 2 to 1. >> yeah contrary to the original agreement. lou: well imagine that. president turning things on its head, john silvio thank you. >> thank you. lou: and straightening us out. looking now at "new york times" bestseller list, i thought this week was really, newswo
i think that just discounting any probability we have a fiscal cliff, if we do, and negotiations brick down, then market i think will be way overpriced for the very difficult economy. we'll see in the first half of next year. lou: we might see it before the end of the year, if it is clear, this may be part of the game, they try to keep in am pickous to whether or not there will be a dial, that would be a slick portion of this negotiation. i do not know what to make of it. i do thinkhis...
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irrespective of the fiscal cliff, we are going to have $270 billion in tax hikes that start effective january 1. thank you, obamacare. nancy pelosi has said that if you want to find out what's in it, just pass it. we are finding out and we are going to have a terrific group of people, including john cruz, the vice president of hsbc, who is the whistleblower on the $1.9 billion in fines if they just had to pay for money laundering along with middle eastern terroris. mexican drug cartels, african dictators, all of the really nice people tht they had no idea where problem. by the way, nobody going to jail will be taking that up. we will have coming up next. tracy: all right, "lou dobbs tonight" at 7:00 p.m. and :00 p.m. eastern. when we come back, how to beat the street. covering your assets with tips with picking winners on wall street. stay with us .racy: earnings season kicks off tracy: where has the time gone? earnings season kicks off in less than a month from now. here with advice on how to pick stocks for earnings, we have the author of the options handbook. before we get intoall
irrespective of the fiscal cliff, we are going to have $270 billion in tax hikes that start effective january 1. thank you, obamacare. nancy pelosi has said that if you want to find out what's in it, just pass it. we are finding out and we are going to have a terrific group of people, including john cruz, the vice president of hsbc, who is the whistleblower on the $1.9 billion in fines if they just had to pay for money laundering along with middle eastern terroris. mexican drug cartels, african...
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i think the president and the democrats have two objects as we approach the fiscal cliff. number one, we're trying to accelerate what remains a fragile economy. number two, come up with a balanced approach to long-term deficit reduction. we have to deal with the long-term deficit reduction for a long-term economic growth. a balanced plan means a mix of cuts in revenue. we already agreed to over a trillion dollars in cuts but on top of that, the president proposed additional cuts along with high-income individuals. his plan has been out there, it's on the internet. i know people are asking for specifics, but the reality it is there. in fact, when i made my remark i held up a copy of his plan to remind people it is not that the president doesn't have a plan, it's that our republican colleagues may not like it but it is there. so with that i will -- >> let's go around the table. so you're experienced in this, what is the practical deadline for the formulation of a deal, kind of a rough outline if you want to get it done before the year runs out? >> before the end of the year?
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she was talking about about solutions to avert the fiscal cliff. if if you look at how we got here, nothing gets resolved out of washington, it's an abyss that doesn't need to happen. if you just go back and look at the promises made by poth because massachusetts when he was running for office, when he was running for re-election, he talked about working across the aisle he talked about bipartisan solutions he talked about it a lot and the american people expected that the president would keep that promise. but before the ink was even dry, before some of the states had confirmed and finalized their vote totals for this last election, the president comes out with a hyper partisan solution that's his approach. when the president comes out with his plan to raise taxes on some, not renew ores, to threaten middle class families with a tax increase if some people don't get their taxes raised, there already was a bipartisan solution to avert this cliff. just a few months ago, here in this house, we passed a bill with 19 democrat votes. a strong bipartisan
she was talking about about solutions to avert the fiscal cliff. if if you look at how we got here, nothing gets resolved out of washington, it's an abyss that doesn't need to happen. if you just go back and look at the promises made by poth because massachusetts when he was running for office, when he was running for re-election, he talked about working across the aisle he talked about bipartisan solutions he talked about it a lot and the american people expected that the president would keep...
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he said, no, it's a fiscal can cliff because the economy will hit a brick wall if there is not a deal in january. he says it is not hype. >> he's basically saying if we go over the fiscal cliff, if these lawmakers and white house doesn't make a deal, it could lead to a recession? >> that >> reporter: that's right. we could hit another recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >>> shoppers that dive for cover as a gunman opens for cover in an oregon mall. we're going to give you the latest details, including the newly released identity of the man. >>> internet pioneer john mcafee is on his way back to the united states. kate bolduan is monitoring that story and others. >> guatemala officials escorted him to the airport and he boarded the plane to miami after a deportation order from guatemala. he is wanted for questioning in belize over the death of a neighbor. we've been following his story pretty closely. mcafee was held in guatemala for a week. he made his fortune from the anti-virus software that bears his name. >>> also, jacob tyler roberts was the lone gunman in the shooting at t
he said, no, it's a fiscal can cliff because the economy will hit a brick wall if there is not a deal in january. he says it is not hype. >> he's basically saying if we go over the fiscal cliff, if these lawmakers and white house doesn't make a deal, it could lead to a recession? >> that >> reporter: that's right. we could hit another recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >>> shoppers that dive for cover as a gunman opens for cover in an oregon mall. we're going...
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white house wants at the very least a long-term extension of the debt ceiling in any fiscal cliff deal. the republicans now see the debt ceiling as their own leverage. they're demanding a steep price to include it. who anyways if obama will ultimately go along with something like this. but it is a talk that there is still one crucial way he's at the mercy of republicans. it leaves him with a tough choice. to pay their price in entitlements or play debt ceiling chicken with them again. okay. does it for "the cycle" today.
white house wants at the very least a long-term extension of the debt ceiling in any fiscal cliff deal. the republicans now see the debt ceiling as their own leverage. they're demanding a steep price to include it. who anyways if obama will ultimately go along with something like this. but it is a talk that there is still one crucial way he's at the mercy of republicans. it leaves him with a tough choice. to pay their price in entitlements or play debt ceiling chicken with them again. okay....
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fiscal cliff. 20 days, count them with me, 20 days out from higher taxes and punishing government spending cuts if there is no deal in washington to craft a softer landing. with me now from los angeles, economist, author, ben stein. ben stein, good to see you, sir. you know, look, despite all we're hearing and seeing out of washington, we can at least discern some movement on this issue of taxes. let me just take you back, house speaker john boehner, his first position was no new taxes. president obama was asking for new taxes totalling $1.6 trillion. after the election speaker of the house ponied up an offer of $800 billion, exactly halfway between his zero and the president's $1.6 trillion. and then this week the president countered at $1.4 trillion. and were they to split the difference, doing simple math here, you would be looking at new tax revenues of $1.1 trillion. do you think, ben stein, that's where they're headed right there in the middle, $1.1 trillion? >> i don't know exactly where they're headed but we're headed for higher taxes. the palmy days for the rich when the taxes got
fiscal cliff. 20 days, count them with me, 20 days out from higher taxes and punishing government spending cuts if there is no deal in washington to craft a softer landing. with me now from los angeles, economist, author, ben stein. ben stein, good to see you, sir. you know, look, despite all we're hearing and seeing out of washington, we can at least discern some movement on this issue of taxes. let me just take you back, house speaker john boehner, his first position was no new taxes....
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>> the first part of your question, if the economy went off of the fiscal cliff our assessment, outside forecasters all think that would have significant adverse effect on the economy and the unemployment rate so on the margin, we would do what we could, we would increase a bit. but i want to be clear we cannot offset the full impact of the fiscal cliff. it is too big given the tools available and limitations on our policy tool kit. in terms of the terminology, people have different preferencess what they call things, the sensible term, the fiscal policies, providing support to the economy if fiscal policy is confectionary the economy will i think go off the cliff. it is reasonable to be concerned about this. i don't buy the idea that a short-term the send off of the fiscal cliff would be not possibly. i think it would be costly and we are already seeing costs. why is it consumer confidence dropped so sharply this week? why is that small business confidence dropped sharply? why are the market's volatile? why is business investment among the weakest levels during the recovery? i think al
>> the first part of your question, if the economy went off of the fiscal cliff our assessment, outside forecasters all think that would have significant adverse effect on the economy and the unemployment rate so on the margin, we would do what we could, we would increase a bit. but i want to be clear we cannot offset the full impact of the fiscal cliff. it is too big given the tools available and limitations on our policy tool kit. in terms of the terminology, people have different...
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the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> good morning. lings -- the president said on a daily basis that we should be passing a balance plan. but we continue to hear only discussion on one side of the ledger. it's always been about tax rates increases and nothing about spending. we insist, let's talk about a balanced plan, where are your proposals for spending cuts. even his advisors say any agreement we come to has to include entitlement programs. we ask the president, please, sit down and be specific with us. let's get that balanced plan. it's interesting the senate passed a bill. the president continues to say support that bill, pass that bill. how is that the case when he continues to say we also need $1.4 trillion in additional new revenues. there's an inconsistency here. let's stop playing gapes. we want to be here for the american people and we want to make sure that we get a balanced solution so that we can start focusing on the one thing that we have seemed to ha
the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> good morning. lings -- the president said on a daily basis that we should be passing a balance plan. but we continue to hear only discussion on one side of the ledger. it's always been about tax rates increases and nothing about spending. we insist, let's talk about a balanced plan, where are your proposals for spending cuts. even his...
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the longer the white house walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> stephanie: how many times can the president say it? you know, this is not negotiable. tax rates have to go up on the wealthiest. >> right. well you know, it is a very strange situation. it does feel a lot like groundhog day. but i think john boehner knows what's going to happen and right now, what he's trying to do is make a deal that won't cost him his speakership and it also won't be undermined by people in his caucus. he needs to have a significant share of republican's vote for whatever we do and i think he's trying to do that. that's why he sent us home a day early last week and canceled business this week. i think he's trying to keep his own people out of town so he has more flexibility in coming up with a solution. >> stephanie: you know it seems to me, representative, you described it exactly right. that's the problem is that they're doing what's best for them politically and you know, the president and you guys are trying to do what's best for the country. what's best for people that a
the longer the white house walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> stephanie: how many times can the president say it? you know, this is not negotiable. tax rates have to go up on the wealthiest. >> right. well you know, it is a very strange situation. it does feel a lot like groundhog day. but i think john boehner knows what's going to happen and right now, what he's trying to do is make a deal that won't cost him his speakership and it also won't be...
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the markets will respond badly if we go over the fiscal cliff. foreign investors will respond badly if america goes over the fiscal cliff at the end of this year. there's a sense, i'm hearing, increasing pessimism among republicans that say we can't afford to have these kinds of talks, even the stalling process doesn't look good for the country. >> there's other incentives that are bringing both republicans, especially the white house, to the table with respect to the fiscal cliff. we did reporting on this. >> your bosom buddy. >> yeah, but there's stimulus the white house wants as a result of the fiscal cliff deal. they don't want to see a lapse, for instance, in the payroll tax cut. although they'd be fine with it being replaced by something else. unemployment insurance passed, infrastructure spending, those are incentives for the white house to cut a deal on the fiscal cliff as opposed to just going over it and saying, okay, we'll just take the, you know, sequester cuts and bush tax rates. >> that's right, and they were willing to do that in 2
the markets will respond badly if we go over the fiscal cliff. foreign investors will respond badly if america goes over the fiscal cliff at the end of this year. there's a sense, i'm hearing, increasing pessimism among republicans that say we can't afford to have these kinds of talks, even the stalling process doesn't look good for the country. >> there's other incentives that are bringing both republicans, especially the white house, to the table with respect to the fiscal cliff. we did...
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the longer the white house slow walks the process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> if there is one fact that should not be in dispute, it ought to be this. the president, unlike any other party to these negotiations, has put forward detailed spending cuts as well as detailed revenue proposals. >> ari, the president saying he's willing to make the tough decisions on the spending cuts if the republicans acquiesce on tax hikes. meanwhile, republicans say i need to see the spending cuts first, show me yours first, before i give you anything on the tax hike. it's this game of who's going to blink first. but it really doesn't benefit john boehner to continue this, as we see the public opinion and his brand is really taking a hit on this. >> i think so. we've seen this movie before. there's a lot of enthusiasm for vague cuts but when you have to actually decide what gets cut, even republicans blanch. the bloomberg poll out today shows 50% of republicans think that it's time to raise the taxes on the top 2% because the president has a mandate. that's just republicans. the
the longer the white house slow walks the process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> if there is one fact that should not be in dispute, it ought to be this. the president, unlike any other party to these negotiations, has put forward detailed spending cuts as well as detailed revenue proposals. >> ari, the president saying he's willing to make the tough decisions on the spending cuts if the republicans acquiesce on tax hikes. meanwhile, republicans say i need to...
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the impact of the fiscal cliff. dennis: many are banking on more and new statement from ben bernanke and company. qe forever. cheryl: full team coverage for the entire hour, nicole petallides watching traders' reaction from the floor of the nyse, jeff flock watching action on the trading pits of the cme and we have you covered with all-star fed panel. first we begin with nicole petallides on the floor of the nyse with stocks at the top of the hour. the fed now up 6. nicole: we are up six points, we are for six day is a row for the dow jones industrial. some would say people were waiting on the fed, talk about more easing and more stimulus and traders, they were asking about extending the programs, we will see about that. as far as major market averages the dow is just above the unchanged line like the s&p 500 and the ticket in nasdaq pulling back and you see the markets are very tepid and hovering right near zero and waiting for each headline. dennis: thank you, critics are calling it q e forever. the expected in mo
the impact of the fiscal cliff. dennis: many are banking on more and new statement from ben bernanke and company. qe forever. cheryl: full team coverage for the entire hour, nicole petallides watching traders' reaction from the floor of the nyse, jeff flock watching action on the trading pits of the cme and we have you covered with all-star fed panel. first we begin with nicole petallides on the floor of the nyse with stocks at the top of the hour. the fed now up 6. nicole: we are up six...
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the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> so obviously, republicans are trying to change the conversation from taxes to cuts. what do they want? >> well, they want entitlement reform and what we've seen is that the white house has moved a little bit. the president seems to be open to some form of entitlement reform, maybe not what john boehner wants, but they have said in the last couple of days that they will do corporate tax reform. so we are seeing some movement from the white house, but nothing yet from the house republicans. >> all right. john boehner just came to the microphone. he's just met with his caucus. let's see if he has anything new. >> -- the president's plan to avert the fiscal cliff still does not meet the two standards that i laid out the day after the election. his plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem. it's mainly tax hikes. and his plan does not begin to solve our debt crisis. it actually increases spending. our plan meets these standards. it cuts spend
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the fiscal cliff must be averted to protect our economy for future generations. yesterday, house speaker john boehner asked the president to identify specific cuts he's willing to make for a balanced approach. i hope the president will take immediate action so progress can be made for a bipartisan solution. in conclusion, god bless our troops and we will never forget september 11 and the global war on terrorism. the speaker pro tempore: the time of the gentleman has expired. the chair recognizes the gentleman from new york. >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mig-ins: mr. speaker, there are many lessons to be learned in the wake of the hurricane that devastated parts of new york and new jersey. one of which is the importance of electronic medical records and health information technology. while many hospitals and medical centers were damaged by the storm, hospitals that employed electronic medical records were able to ensure that vital health information was maintained and not l
the fiscal cliff must be averted to protect our economy for future generations. yesterday, house speaker john boehner asked the president to identify specific cuts he's willing to make for a balanced approach. i hope the president will take immediate action so progress can be made for a bipartisan solution. in conclusion, god bless our troops and we will never forget september 11 and the global war on terrorism. the speaker pro tempore: the time of the gentleman has expired. the chair...
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. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic and said the tax revenue was "a red herring." the top senate democrat doubted a fiscal cliff deal would be l cli wrapped in time for christmas. >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> reporter: speaker boehner is meeting at this hour with house republicans. despite all the gloom the president said he remains confident a fiscal cliff deal will get done. charlie and norah? >> major garrett thank you. nancy pelosi leads the democratseads in the house of representatives. we're pleased to have her with this m us.good good morning. >> good morning. >> where are these negotiations? when they were bargaining over t
. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic and said the tax revenue was "a red...
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the longer the white house walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: and the president argues that he outlined spending cuts in his last budget proposal, more than $550 billion worth. they're still on the table. negotiations will continue later today. josh? >> as that cliff looms. jake tapper, thank you for that. >>> meanwhile, calling it a big step, president obama has announced the u.s. will recognize syria's main opposition group as the country's legitimate representative. it's the latest move to force dictator bashar al assad from power. >>> meanwhile, here at home, a natural gas explosion near charleston, west virginia, set off the fire you see here. it scorched a busy highway, destroyed at least four homes. several people were rushed to the hospital because of heavy smoke inhalation. but no one was seriously hurt. no word on why the 20-inch gas line exploded. >>> meanwhile, new claims this morning that fedex may have been overcharging its customers and doing it for years. internal e-mails recently made public for a lawsuit show a sales executive
the longer the white house walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: and the president argues that he outlined spending cuts in his last budget proposal, more than $550 billion worth. they're still on the table. negotiations will continue later today. josh? >> as that cliff looms. jake tapper, thank you for that. >>> meanwhile, calling it a big step, president obama has announced the u.s. will recognize syria's main opposition group...
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bernanke says it is not enough to keep the economy from going over the fiscal cliff but it could help cushion the fall. >>> 8:47. let's bring you up to date on some of the other top stories we're following for you right now -- look at this. a san jose man was arrested after his truck slammed into an apartment building early this morning and children were sleeping inside. luckily nobody was seriously hurt. the building was severely damaged. the 21-year-old was arrested on suspicion of drunk driving. >>> and the united states will be pushing for a united nations security council resolution condemning north korea for lunching that rocket. the u.s. believes north korea uses rocket line of -- launches like that to test its long- range missil technology. >>> and house speaker john boehner this morning said he and president obama are still far apart in the fiscal cliff negotiations. bohn erspoke last night with the president -- boehner spoke last night with the president. >>> 8:48. the owner of a monkey found wounderring in an ikea parking lot in canada is fighting to get her pet back. she s
bernanke says it is not enough to keep the economy from going over the fiscal cliff but it could help cushion the fall. >>> 8:47. let's bring you up to date on some of the other top stories we're following for you right now -- look at this. a san jose man was arrested after his truck slammed into an apartment building early this morning and children were sleeping inside. luckily nobody was seriously hurt. the building was severely damaged. the 21-year-old was arrested on suspicion of...
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the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff, and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> good morning. the president has said on a daily basis that we should be passing a balanced plan. but what we hear from the president is continuing only discussion on one side of the ledger. it has always been about tax rate increases, and nothing about spending. and we insist, say, look, mr. president, let's talk about a balanced plan, but where are your specifics on the spending cuts? even his own advisers say that any kind of agreement that we come to has to deal with the prime drivers of our deficit, which is the spending, particularly the health care entitlement programs. so we ask the president to please sit down with us and be specific and let's get that balanced plan. you know, it's interesting that the senate has passed a bill that is a bill calling for increased revenues of $850 billion. the president continues to say, support that bill, pass that bill. well, how is that the case when he continues to say we also need $1.4
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the longer the white house slow walks this process, the slowser our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> that slow walk comment specifically was in response to that counteroffer. here's what the white house press secretary responded to boehner. >> it's not a mystery. we have seen this before. this is the document that contains the specific spending cuts. the speaker of the house sent us a proposal that was two pages long. >> yesterday afternoon after all of that back and forth, republicans delivered a formal counteroffer. it was virtually identical to the proposal the president rejected a week ago, but with more detail. the congressional liaison met with boehner's top aide and last night he called boehner himself all to make sure they didn't start trashing each other's proposal. the white house is on the cautiously optimistic side. the house republicans are on the cautiously pessimistic side. they will get a deal and boehner's strong statement on the house floor was for effect for his own problem. they didn't want to make major concessions or counteroffers until boehner admits publicl
the longer the white house slow walks this process, the slowser our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> that slow walk comment specifically was in response to that counteroffer. here's what the white house press secretary responded to boehner. >> it's not a mystery. we have seen this before. this is the document that contains the specific spending cuts. the speaker of the house sent us a proposal that was two pages long. >> yesterday afternoon after all of that back and...
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the longer the white house slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. martha: so what is really going on in this negotiating right now? where are both sides? the white house continues to insist that it is republicans who have yet to offer any detailed proposal to themment when speaker john boehner comes to the microphone moments from now, in every one of these you can pick up a little bit of the tea leaves and figure out where this might be going. as soon as john boehner walks in front of that podium we'll want to listen to every word and see fit gives us any indication of where we are right now. bill: we are getting brand-new audio now of the police chatter inside of a busy mall in organ after a masked gunman opened fire. have a listen here. >> paramedics in here you want to get them out get them out. i'd say as many people out as possible. they are on their way out of the food court. that goes for guys that are uniformed officers, spread out. if you've got nothing to do then leave, please. >> i've got a witness at my location, where do i need to send
the longer the white house slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. martha: so what is really going on in this negotiating right now? where are both sides? the white house continues to insist that it is republicans who have yet to offer any detailed proposal to themment when speaker john boehner comes to the microphone moments from now, in every one of these you can pick up a little bit of the tea leaves and figure out where this might be going. as soon as john...
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the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> good morning. the president has said on a daily basis that we should be passing a balanced plan. but what we hear from the president is continuing only discussion on one side of the ledger. it has always been about tax rates increases and nothing about spending. and we insist and say, look, mr. president, let's talk about a balanced plan, but where are your specifics on the spending cut? even his own advisers say that any kind of agreement that we come to has to deal with the prime drivers of our deficit, which is the spending, and particularly, the health care entitlement programs. so we ask the president to please sit down with us and be specific and let's get that balanced plan. you know, it's interesting that the senate has passed a bill that is a bill calling for increased revenues of $850 billion. the president continues to say, support that bill, pass that bill. well, how is that the case when he continues to say we also nee
the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> good morning. the president has said on a daily basis that we should be passing a balanced plan. but what we hear from the president is continuing only discussion on one side of the ledger. it has always been about tax rates increases and nothing about spending. and we insist and say, look, mr. president, let's talk about a balanced...
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turning to the republicans' fiscal cliff proposal, where is the white house talked about the $1.40 trillion in revenue, republicans are talking about its $800 billion in revenue. if you also see help savings and other mandatory savings, discretionary savings, and some revisions to the consumer price index of $200 billion. david is a republican. welcome. caller: i think you mean michigan. host: i do. guest: hi. caller: i disagree with you greatly. guest: that's what makes it a great country. caller: in michigan we are experiencing a lot of violence from your constituents. when our tea party members went to washington and protested, and you tried every way in the book to find something wrong in what we were doing. most of what we did was to sit there and say the rosary or pray or hold a sign up and protest. your constituents are threatening my life when i walk to say my point of view. but don't hold signs of protest or say prayers. paper and lives. threaten people's lives. when i was helping to break a strike in connecticut, we were designing the u.s.s. trenton submarines and i was breaking t
turning to the republicans' fiscal cliff proposal, where is the white house talked about the $1.40 trillion in revenue, republicans are talking about its $800 billion in revenue. if you also see help savings and other mandatory savings, discretionary savings, and some revisions to the consumer price index of $200 billion. david is a republican. welcome. caller: i think you mean michigan. host: i do. guest: hi. caller: i disagree with you greatly. guest: that's what makes it a great country....
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the other day, we were talking about the fiscal cliff. and you tell us it will be really, really bad. why does the market keep going up? >> everyone thinks they will fix it. in the market, the question, what will the top rate be for the highest earners. 37%? the market says there will be a deal and lower corporate tax rates. if there isn't a deal, after the first of the year, a big stock market sell-off. >> we'll talk about the 20 days left to the fiscal cliff, straight ahead. >>> still ahead, a prominent republican now officially a democrat. we'll take a closer look at why former florida governor charlie crist left the gop behind. he'll join us to talk about that. >>> and the hit reality show "storage wars," by the way, i love that show. is it fake? what one star is saying. say it ain't so. that in a moment. mmmm. [ female announcer ] make new traditions with pillsbury grands! cinnamon rolls. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-selt
the other day, we were talking about the fiscal cliff. and you tell us it will be really, really bad. why does the market keep going up? >> everyone thinks they will fix it. in the market, the question, what will the top rate be for the highest earners. 37%? the market says there will be a deal and lower corporate tax rates. if there isn't a deal, after the first of the year, a big stock market sell-off. >> we'll talk about the 20 days left to the fiscal cliff, straight ahead....
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cliff. >>> and jpmorgan ceo, jamie dimon on the effect of the economy and fiscal cliff. stick around! >>> welcome back to "squawk b " box." the futures have been around 50, now 52 points. a look at the percentage move. not a lot. at least it is up and will be up for six straight days. you're very ingagnostic about a these things, overall we'd like prosperity to increase globally? >> absolutely. is that ever in doubt? with some places it is. >> in europe, does prosperity seem to be having a good century in europe? >> no. >> good decade? >> no. with the tail end of the feds 2-day interest meeting, feds are suspecting out-right asset purchases to replace "operation twist." has the fed run out of firepower. steve joins us on what to expect when we hear from them later on today. hey, steve. >> hi, michelle. the fed doesn't think it's run out of firepower although the market may have a different point of view. the big debate is how the fed replaces "operation twist." for background it's short term securities and buys long term securities in an effort to bring down long term in
cliff. >>> and jpmorgan ceo, jamie dimon on the effect of the economy and fiscal cliff. stick around! >>> welcome back to "squawk b " box." the futures have been around 50, now 52 points. a look at the percentage move. not a lot. at least it is up and will be up for six straight days. you're very ingagnostic about a these things, overall we'd like prosperity to increase globally? >> absolutely. is that ever in doubt? with some places it is. >> in...